Faux War On Christmas With Father Morris
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Atheist Margaret Downey verse Father Johnathan Morris. Of course this being on Fox with Morris, it is a one sided fight. The whole theme is "Atheist bad, Christan good"
Just because someone is not religious does not mean they do not have the same rights as you. I believe Father Morris misses that point a few times. He keeps trying to argue the point, this is Christmas time this is our time not yours, in going so far as to say, that all religions that celebrate any festivity during this time are celebrating the birth of Christ.
Now I am pretty sure the Father is not that misguided, or uneducated in the fact that other religions are not celebrating the birth of Christ. The Winter Solstice dates back as far as the Neolithic period, some 11,000 to 8,500 years before the birth of Christ.
To try to claim The Winter Solstice for just Christianity, well the good Father might want to brush up on his Theology, it is quite rusty it would seem.
But faux in their infinite wisdom not only showed how far from "Fair and Balanced" they are. They actually give the last word to Father Morris, while they sit their and praise his great argument against the atheist.
Ah, you would think that would have been enough for faux, but no! When answer emails at the end of the show in responce to the exchange, they bring Father Morris back, alone! From this point on they refer to Margaret Downey as "The Atheist"
The Tree of Knowledge actually finds it's place in most all religions in some fashion or another. In Judaism, Tree of Conscience, In Buddhism, The Bodhi tree. In Hinduism, The Tree of Jiva and Atman. Basically in every religion there is a Tree of knowledge in some form, hence why the atheist would choose such a symbol. One that all religions see as the same, on a time all religions celebrate.
It makes a lot more sense then Fauxs' war on Christmas view. Then again the leader of the war on Christmas is Bill'O who seems to think Christ was born 5000 years ago...
The Father rants at the end that atheist don't have the gift of faith. To the tune of Atheist need saved, and then they can worry about celebrating Christmas. Urgh who knows if thats what he said, my brain was too fried at that point to grasp what the heck he was talking about.
Just because someone is not religious does not mean they do not have the same rights as you. I believe Father Morris misses that point a few times. He keeps trying to argue the point, this is Christmas time this is our time not yours, in going so far as to say, that all religions that celebrate any festivity during this time are celebrating the birth of Christ.
Now I am pretty sure the Father is not that misguided, or uneducated in the fact that other religions are not celebrating the birth of Christ. The Winter Solstice dates back as far as the Neolithic period, some 11,000 to 8,500 years before the birth of Christ.
To try to claim The Winter Solstice for just Christianity, well the good Father might want to brush up on his Theology, it is quite rusty it would seem.
But faux in their infinite wisdom not only showed how far from "Fair and Balanced" they are. They actually give the last word to Father Morris, while they sit their and praise his great argument against the atheist.
Ah, you would think that would have been enough for faux, but no! When answer emails at the end of the show in responce to the exchange, they bring Father Morris back, alone! From this point on they refer to Margaret Downey as "The Atheist"
The Tree of Knowledge actually finds it's place in most all religions in some fashion or another. In Judaism, Tree of Conscience, In Buddhism, The Bodhi tree. In Hinduism, The Tree of Jiva and Atman. Basically in every religion there is a Tree of knowledge in some form, hence why the atheist would choose such a symbol. One that all religions see as the same, on a time all religions celebrate.
It makes a lot more sense then Fauxs' war on Christmas view. Then again the leader of the war on Christmas is Bill'O who seems to think Christ was born 5000 years ago...
The Father rants at the end that atheist don't have the gift of faith. To the tune of Atheist need saved, and then they can worry about celebrating Christmas. Urgh who knows if thats what he said, my brain was too fried at that point to grasp what the heck he was talking about.
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TheLoneDisciple said:
I'm sorry, but i see this "tree of knowledge" idea as nothing more than an atheist jeer at Christianity, and faith in religion in general. The tree of knowledge, as many know, is the tree that Eve and Adam ate from and got them kicked out of Eden. It was the ORIGINAL SIN.
I'm sorry, but i see this "tree of knowledge" idea as nothing more than an atheist jeer at Christianity, and faith in religion in general. The tree of knowledge, as many know, is the tree that Eve and Adam ate from and got them kicked out of Eden. It was the ORIGINAL SIN.
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Vermin said:
I think wolf in sheeps clothing is right about hif first point.when Atheists cellibrate anything in december it looks to christians as though we are honoring the birth of jesus. We should be working to quiet christmass, move it from the public eye and into there CLOSED doors, and should not be joining in.
I think wolf in sheeps clothing is right about hif first point.when Atheists cellibrate anything in december it looks to christians as though we are honoring the birth of jesus. We should be working to quiet christmass, move it from the public eye and into there CLOSED doors, and should not be joining in.
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synRose said:
The priest is making good points all. This is an embarrassment for atheists. If we really want to make a statement, we would avoid xmas like the plague. i haven't celebrated any version of xmas (certainly not pagan!) for eight years. The economical and symbolic impact of a large group rejecting xmas would be the best statement we could all make. Remember: LAST YEAR WAS THE WORST YEAR FOR RETAILERS IN THE CHRISTMAS SEASON.
The priest is making good points all. This is an embarrassment for atheists. If we really want to make a statement, we would avoid xmas like the plague. i haven't celebrated any version of xmas (certainly not pagan!) for eight years. The economical and symbolic impact of a large group rejecting xmas would be the best statement we could all make. Remember: LAST YEAR WAS THE WORST YEAR FOR RETAILERS IN THE CHRISTMAS SEASON.
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Bugging said:
Atheist must speak out for our rights,that clown with the collar is really deluded,it shows you the psychological damage religion does to people.
Atheist must speak out for our rights,that clown with the collar is really deluded,it shows you the psychological damage religion does to people.
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I'm a Christian and I have no problem with the "tree of knowledge" display. I would much rather have multiple expressions of faiths/non-faiths than the secular censorship of faith expressions in public that is promoted by many.